[SergeantWilly]

I want this

[Lt Dan]

Hey what year is it? Was it factory or is this a after factory MOD?

[Jim B]

Very nice... yes put up the specs. Too bad you don't have a bigger picture.

[Rollbar]

cool

[Mountain Man]

My guess is that it is a MAHINDRA CJ3..........they not only built the normal
80 inch wheelbase model, but also had a 91 inch wheelbase.

[SergeantWilly]

yea you're right!!! it is a mahindra. I found the link to their web site off the cj3b site. Its built in India with a 4 cylinder diesel.

[LostJ]

OT: i heard a rumor that they might bring this little pickup(clcik below) and one of their SUV's over to the states
Pickup

[SergeantWilly]

mahindra

[Jim B]

SergeantWilly, on Mar 3 2007, 01:42 PM, said:

mahindra

NICE!

[Mountain Man]

I saw a bunch of them in Thailand and other places in south-east Asia and
the quality of Mahindra's are TERRIBLE!

Not only do they have underpowered diesels, but I saw a few with Renault
gasoline engines, and 2wd.

[Jim B]

Mountain Man, on Mar 5 2007, 04:04 PM, said:

the quality of Mahindra's are TERRIBLE!

Not only do they have underpowered diesels, but I saw a few with Renault gasoline engines, and 2wd.

I was not aware of this, good info. I do know that anything Renault is but I never heard or read anything on the Mahindra.

[Mountain Man]

From what I remember in talking with some Mahindra owners.........the original CJ-3B had a 3 speed tranny, but the Mahindra has a 4 speed KIA tranny, and an optional
Peugot diesel engine.

[JollyRodger]

A buddy of mine who lived in Nicaragua ses they are all over the roads but the were bult verry crappy!! I think you have to do lots of mods to make them street legal in the states. I think they were made in Germany for third world countries.

[SoilantGreen]

The CJ-3Bs that you will see in Latin American countries are usually American Willys-built versions. The small banana and coffee plantations up in the mountains love them for getting around to service the crops. They even have a yearly party for their jeeps called Festival de los Jeeps. Look it up.

The Mahindra brothers got their start with jeeps in India after the war by assembling CKD jeeps. CKD stands for Complete Knock Down meaning that they were still in their shipping boxes and unassembled. When Kaiser-Willys and later Kaiser-Jeep improved the models, Mahindra & Mahindra purchased the rights to build a CJ-3B in India. They later improved on the model building what they called a CJ-4. "Improvements" continue to this day, making the -3B the longest produced jeep of all of thew variants. There's even a few seconds of footage of a long wheelbase -3B in the movie Sahara. Since the Toledo factory never built one, it must be an Egyptian or Indian built variant. Several companies held licenses to build them.

They also built a FC-170 truck based on Jeep patterns. Jeep had a short wheelbase FC-150 and a FC-170 with plans for a -160 and a -190 that they never saw the need to build for the American market. Mahindra built all the versions and developed them into a basis for a van, an ambulance, and a small bus.

The engines they use over there suck and they are not legal for import since they meet none of our crash-worthiness or pollution standards.

[LostJ]

im pretty sure mitsubishi did something like this over in japan. I remember seeing a yahoo japan ad for a mitsubishi badged "cj3b"

[SoilantGreen]

oreo, on Mar 11 2007, 08:04 PM, said:

im pretty sure mitsubishi did something like this over in japan. I remember seeing a yahoo japan ad for a mitsubishi badged "cj3b"

Good memory. Mitsu built a version for both civvy and military use. For a year or two, the Mitsubishi version even had the diamond logo right after the word "WILLYS" at the top of the grill (actually, it's officially called the radiator protector). Their military versions are easier to tell apart from the Willys civilian versions because they have chrome headlight rings. The M606 variant that Willys-Jeep and Kaiser-Jeep built for the forces of our allies, does not. Pay attention next time you see "Good Morning Vietnam". Forest Whitaker keeps trying to start a CJ-3B while Robin Williams' character Adrian Cronauer makes fun of him because the jeep is already running. There are some other clues on the jeep that give it away as an American civilian model.

Now imagine this: American boys are sent to South Viet-Nam to fight for that country's cause. The ARVN (Army of the Republic of Viet-Nam) forces that are their allies are using American built M606s. In non-tactical roles, the US army is using Mitsubishi built CJ-3Bs. Can you imagine looking at your dad's or uncle's pictures from his time "in country" and noticing the chrome headlight rings on the jeep he's riding in, while his "allies" have the American jeep? Americans in Asian jeeps and Asians in American jeeps!

When I say "allies", remember back to the scene in Full Metal Jacket when the Hotel Co 2/5 Marines are "negotiating" with the ARVN officer for the services of the prostitute during a lull in the fight for Huey City. "Cowboy" gets a dig in at the officer by offering to trade "some ARVN rifles. They've never been fired, and they've only been dropped once." Most of our boys weren't impressed with the loyalty or dedication of the men who were supposedly on our side.

[LostJ]

i had the link bookmarked
http://www.okiauctions.com/auctiondetails....tible&id=102023

[SergeantWilly]

[SoilantGreen]

There's another clue to the -3B being built by Mitsu. Besides those goofy headlight protectors, and those ugly fenders, the CJ-3B/J4 series military rigs often have three, four, or five windshield wipers. Does it rain more over there?

That photo also shows the Mitsu diamond by itself without the word "WILLYS" as on earlier models.

[SergeantWilly]

SoilantGreen, on Mar 13 2007, 09:54 PM, said:

There's another clue to the -3B being built by Mitsu.  Besides those goofy headlight protectors, and those ugly fenders, the CJ-3B/J4 series military rigs often have three, four, or five windshield wipers.  Does it rain more over there?

That photo also shows the Mitsu diamond by itself without the word "WILLYS" as on earlier models.

What motor did they have?? the Mitsu.

[LostJ]

SergeantWilly, on Mar 15 2007, 08:03 PM, said:

What motor did they have?? the Mitsu.

im pretty sure that I read somewhere that they have a 2.7 turbo diesel

[SergeantWilly]

My F134 is ROCKS!!!

[SoilantGreen]

SergeantWilly, on Mar 24 2007, 10:27 PM, said:

My F134 is ROCKS!!!

Rock you like a Hurricane!!!

[mudrgoos]

didn't they also make the 3b in the Philipines? recall taking to aguy at one of Jeeper's shows about 5 or so years ago that had just finished his and he said he ordered the body from the Philipines and they were made under license from Willy's.Had "Willy's" in the side of the hood I believe.Looked fantastic.KeepJeepin'

[SoilantGreen]

They sold licenses to a lot of people to build -3Bs. There is a company in the Phillipines that makes body parts for every model jeep including the complete tub. They also illegally stamp "Ford" and "Willys" into them. Maybe by now, they have done more work trying to get the licenses to do the "Willys" one, but I doubt Ford will ever sell them the rights.

[Rollbar]

What's the web site for the Philipines Jeep products, I would like to look @ some of the equipment being sold.

[SoilantGreen]

Omix-Ada?

[Rollbar]

SoilantGreen, on Apr 14 2007, 10:58 PM, said:

Omix-Ada?

U think Dave?