Dyna Beads tire balancing
#1
Posted 16 April 2006 - 08:23 AM
So I did some searching for other methods of balancing my tires. I found two
Dyna Beads
Centramatic Balancers
Both use the same bacic idea of a dynamic balancing system of using centrifugal force, to shift the weight as you drive to balance the tire. Dyna Beads are small ceramic beads that you place into the space between the inside of the rim and inside of the tire. Centramatic Balancers are an aluminum ring that mounts on the lugs between the wheel bearing and the rim. Within the ring are small hardened led balls and a dampening fluid.
So after reading about both of these I looked at the cost. The cost for the Dyna beads for my size tires (all 5) with the applicator bottle & filtered valve cores was about $70 (included shipping). The cost for the Centramatic Balancers was $199. (not sure on additional shipping costs)
So I went with the Dyna Beads. I figured thats what a spend to get the tires balanced anyway.
They have a chart on their website to figure out how much you will need depending on your tire size. For my 35" tire it sugguested 8 oz per tire so I orded 5 bags. (note if you use these beads you must also use filtered valve cores, which I ordered 5 also) You have 2 different bags of beads you can order. The standard bag that you use to pour thought the valve steam (for tires already mounted) or the easy open bag that you place inside the tire prior to mounting that will then distribute the beads after you start moving. Since I alreay had the tire mounted I orded the standard bag and the applicator bottle to help pour the beads thought the valve steam.
I ordered them last Saturday and I got them delivered on Friday. So on friday afternoon I went searching for a gas station with free air. Luckly there was one just by my house. So I pulled up so the valve steam was closest to the ground and then took the tool to remove the valve core and pulled the existing valve core out completely and let the air drain completly. While the tire was deflating I put the 8 oz of ceramic beads into the applicator bottle
Once the air was drained I put the plastic tube over the valve steam
Then I poured the beads in slowly
If they get stuck you just tap on the valve steam to get them going agian. This took some time to get them all to go though (around 15 mins or more per tire depending on how lucky I got.)
Than you install the new filltered valve core
Than you air the tire back up
After all this I took it for a test drive on the turnpike and went up to 75 mph without any vibration. Before I was getting a vibration at 55-60 and 70-75. The best thing about this is If I go off road and get mud in the rims or tires it will automaticly adjust to the imballance and I wont have to do anything. I should never have to balance agian.
Ive also found out on friday that Ruben has just done this with a set of 37s and he used 14oz of the EZ open bag and took the jeep up to 75 and no vibration at all. He told me the EZ open bag the beads a slightly larger. He is also trying to become a dealer for them.
I would recommend these to everyone. You dont have to worry about loosing weights on the trail or having to rebalance after every trip out. Great product
'03 Tomb Raider Rubicon (#0986)
4.88 gears, Bellyup, oil pan skid, 1 ton high stearing, SYE with Tom woods RE adjustable upper control arms, Rubens 4130 heat treated lower adjustable control amrs with greasible johnny joints, OX outer axle seals, 1" MM lift, 1-1/4" BL. and maybe more but I cant remember
'98 Grand Cherokee
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#2
Posted 16 April 2006 - 08:55 AM
Do you have a pic that you can post up on the EZ beads
Also a small chart of how many OZ they suggest from 31" to 40" tires if the data is available.
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#3 Guest_Livefree_*
Posted 16 April 2006 - 09:06 AM
#4
Posted 16 April 2006 - 09:12 AM
It depends on your tire dia, tire width, rim dia, & tire ply for the oz recommended.
The EZ bags look like this
'03 Tomb Raider Rubicon (#0986)
4.88 gears, Bellyup, oil pan skid, 1 ton high stearing, SYE with Tom woods RE adjustable upper control arms, Rubens 4130 heat treated lower adjustable control amrs with greasible johnny joints, OX outer axle seals, 1" MM lift, 1-1/4" BL. and maybe more but I cant remember
'98 Grand Cherokee
Ru•bi•con n.
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#5
Posted 16 April 2006 - 09:49 PM
Thanks for the info, I'm gonna put a set in Peaches 33's.
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#6
Posted 17 April 2006 - 05:21 PM
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#7
Posted 18 April 2006 - 06:38 AM
'03 Tomb Raider Rubicon (#0986)
4.88 gears, Bellyup, oil pan skid, 1 ton high stearing, SYE with Tom woods RE adjustable upper control arms, Rubens 4130 heat treated lower adjustable control amrs with greasible johnny joints, OX outer axle seals, 1" MM lift, 1-1/4" BL. and maybe more but I cant remember
'98 Grand Cherokee
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Posted 21 April 2006 - 06:41 PM
#9
Posted 21 April 2006 - 09:06 PM
Glad to hear first hand the results, prior to purchase
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#12
Posted 22 April 2006 - 08:27 PM
'03 Tomb Raider Rubicon (#0986)
4.88 gears, Bellyup, oil pan skid, 1 ton high stearing, SYE with Tom woods RE adjustable upper control arms, Rubens 4130 heat treated lower adjustable control amrs with greasible johnny joints, OX outer axle seals, 1" MM lift, 1-1/4" BL. and maybe more but I cant remember
'98 Grand Cherokee
Ru•bi•con n.
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 06:44 AM
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Posted 23 April 2006 - 11:12 AM
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Posted 26 April 2006 - 04:34 PM
#18
Posted 26 April 2006 - 04:41 PM
'03 Tomb Raider Rubicon (#0986)
4.88 gears, Bellyup, oil pan skid, 1 ton high stearing, SYE with Tom woods RE adjustable upper control arms, Rubens 4130 heat treated lower adjustable control amrs with greasible johnny joints, OX outer axle seals, 1" MM lift, 1-1/4" BL. and maybe more but I cant remember
'98 Grand Cherokee
Ru•bi•con n.
A limit that when passed or exceeded permits of no return and typically results in irrevocable commitment.
#19
Posted 08 May 2006 - 07:12 PM
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Posted 08 May 2006 - 07:18 PM
#21
Posted 09 May 2006 - 07:26 AM
Greenlantern, on May 8 2006, 07:18 PM, said:
Green,
Could it be that you did not get enough weight for the size tire Are any of you rims bent, I wonder if this would also cause a problem.
El Niño
Experience is defined as something you get, after you need it.
Give the world the best you have. The best will come back to you...
There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs.
"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour." 9th Commandment.
"Speak not Evil of the absent for it is unjust." George Washington, Rule 89 of Civility and Decent Behavior.
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#22
Posted 09 May 2006 - 11:00 AM
#23
Posted 09 May 2006 - 01:20 PM
#24 Guest_Livefree_*
Posted 09 May 2006 - 05:09 PM
"If your tire had 8 oz on one side, 4 oz on the other, then some of that
is lateral, some is radial imbalance. If you knew where the 8 oz was,
then subtract the 4 from the 8, and install the 4 oz where the 8 oz used
to be, and nothing where the 4 oz used to be. It should be better."
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Posted 10 May 2006 - 07:17 AM
#26
Posted 10 May 2006 - 07:48 AM
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#27
Posted 10 May 2006 - 08:30 AM
Which is totaly unworth it. So anyone that may be considering them, dont bother, unless you have time and money to blow,or feeling lucky...
#28
Posted 10 May 2006 - 08:35 AM
Jack H, on May 8 2006, 08:12 PM, said:
Jack, if you havent opened the package yet, i would return them... Good luck---- :gl:
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Posted 10 May 2006 - 09:50 AM
#30
Posted 10 May 2006 - 09:58 AM
Mongo, on May 10 2006, 10:50 AM, said:
if they are unopened only....