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  Posted 10 November 2003 - 10:09 PM

1941-45 Willys MB or Ford GPW
The Original Legend
4 Cylinder "L" Flat Head; 6 Volt; No Tailgate; 2 Piece Split Windshield W/Studs; Rear Mounted Spare Tire; Passenger Side Glove Box; Center Dash Emergency Brake Handle; Wheelhouse Tool Boxes.

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1945-49 Willys CJ2A
The Farmer's Vigilant Workhorse
4 Cylinder "L" Flat Head; 6 Volt; Tailgate; 2 Piece Split Windshield W/Studs; Side Mounted Spare Tire; No Glove Box; Center Dash Emergency Brake Handle; Tool Box Under Passenger Seat.

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1950-52 Willys M38
The Best of the Flat Fenders
4 Cylinder "L" Flat Head; 24 Volt; Tailgate; One Piece Windshield W/Rope Tack; Rear Mounted Spare Tire; Passenger Side glove Box; Emergency Brake Handle to Left of Steering Column; Tool Box Under Passenger Seat.

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1950-53 Willys CJ3A
The Father of Recreational Vehicles
4 Cylinder "L" Flat Head; 6 Volt; Tailgate; One Piece Solid Windshield W/Rope Track; Side Mounted spare Tire; No Glove Box; Center Dash Emergency Brake Handle; Tool Box under the Passenger Seat.

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1953-64 Willys CJ3B
Pathfinder To a New Era
4 Cylinder "F" Valve Over; 6 & 12 Volt; Tailgate; One Piece Solid Windshield W/Rope Track; Side Mounted Spare Tire; No Glove Box; Center Dash Emergency Brake Handle; Tool Box Under Passenger Seat.

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1955-69 Willys CJ5
The World Standard
4 Cylinder "F" Valve Over; 6 & 12 Volt; Tailgate; One Piece Solid Windshield W/Rope Track; Side Mounted Spare Tire; Passenger Side Glove Box; Emergency Brake To Left of Steering Column; Tool Box Under Passenger Seat.

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1955-69 Willys CJ6
The Super Hauler
4 Cylinder "F" Valve Over; 6 & 12 Volt; Tailgate; One Piece Solid Windshield W/Rope Track; Side Mounted Spare Tire; Passenger Side Glove Box; Emergency Brake To Left of Steering Column; Tool Box Under Passenger Seat. Long 101 Wheelbase.

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1951-71 Willys M38A1
The Military Keystone
4 Cylinder "F" Value Over; 24 Volt; Tailgate; One Piece Split Windshield W/Rope Tack; Rear Mounted Spare Tire; Driver's Side Glove Box; Emergency Brake Handle on Floor Between Seats; Tool Box Under Passenger Seat.

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Now can anyone tell me the years for CJ7, CJ8Scramler, YJ, & TJ and post some pics? You don't expect me to do all the work! :shock:
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  Posted 11 November 2003 - 10:36 AM

Q: What years were the Jeep Scrambler Made?
A: 1981-1986. There were only 127 Jeep Scramblers made in 1986

Q: How many Jeep scramblers were made?
A:
1981 - 8,355
1982 - 7,759
1983 - 5,405
1984 - 4,130
1985 - 2,015
1986 - 128
Total - 27,792

The CJ5 era started in 1970 -81
The CJ7 era started in 1976-86

Am I close?
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Posted 11 November 2003 - 01:00 PM

you already covered my jeep so
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  Posted 11 November 2003 - 02:02 PM

Ok guys, there seems to a discrepancy with regards to the dates of the CJ5.

If you look on the above descriptions it states that they were made from:
1955-1969 :shock:

Looks like Quadcam has a fake one. :beer: :gossip:

Let's hear on the stock equipment, hopefully we will hear from the YJ and TJ guys.
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Posted 11 November 2003 - 06:53 PM

Jim B, on Nov 11 2003, 02:02 PM, said:

Ok guys, there seems to a discrepancy with regards to the dates of the CJ5.

Llooks like Quadcam has a fake one.  :gossip: :wacko:

I don't know, my book say's the 5 is from 1970-1981? :shock: :beer:

It's out of the Chilton's Repair Manual,
Jeep CJ-1945 to 1981
Covers Jeep CJ-2A
CJ-3A
CJ-3B
CJ-5
CJ-6
CJ-7
Scrambler.

It list the picture & the year of the Jeep & under each Jeep it has the years that they were built on pages 6-9.

Copy right on the book is 1981 by the Chilton Book Co.


Just a thought,
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  Posted 11 November 2003 - 07:46 PM

Hey Guys,

Check this website if you want to see some Jeep model history. There is stuff in there I have never heard of...

http://www.film.quee...J3B/Poster.html

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Posted 11 November 2003 - 09:21 PM

Nice site Tom, I'll take one of each.........boy my wife would love that......no really she love's Jeeps from the oldest to the last Scrambler made. :shock:
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  Posted 12 November 2003 - 07:05 AM

Tom,

Excellent link, has a lot of info and history. Looks like the CJ5 was made for quite a few years, looks like the longest run out of all of them. :thumbup:
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Posted 12 November 2003 - 06:18 PM

How about a grill chart?

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  Posted 12 November 2003 - 08:01 PM

Jim, Nice chart, I like the dates with them. Like you said it looks like the longest run is the CJ5...

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Posted 12 November 2003 - 09:27 PM

Nice grill chart... but what's w/the ones w/the "Square" lights in them.
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Posted 19 November 2003 - 03:02 PM

Try earlycj5.com
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Posted 19 November 2003 - 09:05 PM

I must protest that bullnose commando grill is not on the poster :(

I guess it may be the shortest run for the jeep line 72-73.
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Posted 19 November 2003 - 09:24 PM

DanStew, on Nov 19 2003, 09:05 PM, said:

I must protest that bullnose commando grill is not on the poster :(

I guess it may be the shortest run for the jeep line 72-73.

Show a pic.

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Posted 09 January 2004 - 03:25 PM

Jim,
As an FYI they made the CJ2A and the CJ3A in 1949. Both were produced that year. There were very few CJ2A's made that year and a lot fewer left. the ones I have seen for sale are muuuucho $$$$$$$$$$
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Jeep History

1903 The Standard Wheel Company expands bicycle operations to include Overland Automotive.
1903 The Overland "Runabout" is introduced.
1908 John North Willys, an Overland dealer in Elmira, NY travels to Indianapolis and buys the Overland Automotive Division of Standard Wheel Company.
1909 Overland Automotive is moved to Toledo, OH.
1912 Overland Automotive is renamed Willys-Overland Motor Company.
1913 John North Willys purchases Edwards Motor Company of New York City, obtaining a license to develop Knight sleeve-valve engines. Production of the Willys-Knight automobiles begins.
1914 Willys continues increasing production and becomes the number two automaker in America, second only to Ford.
1926 The Willys Whippet debuts. Featuring a 100" wheelbase, it is the smallest car then made in America.
1932 Production of the Willys-Knight automobiles end.
1935 John North Willys, the father of the company that will later become known as Jeep, passes away.
1936 Coming out of bankruptcy following the Great Depression, the company is reorganized as Willys-Overland Motors, Inc.
1940 Two of the five Willys Quad prototype vehicles are delivered to the US Army. Powered by the 60hp "Go-Devil" engine, this vehicle has more power than the competing entries from Bantam Car Company and Ford.
1941 Willys improves upon the Quad with the debut of the Willys MA. 1,553 units are produced. Of these, approximately 30 are known to still be in existence.
1942 Willys begins production of the world-renown Willys MB. 335,531 units are produced. "Jeep" becomes a household name with the news of this amazing vehicle that can go anywhere and do anything. These are the most desired Jeep vehicle for restoration.
1944 The US Army contracts Willys to develop a long-wheelbase version of the MB. Willys responds by developing the MLW-1 and MLW-2 prototypes.
1944 The CJ-1 is developed. This is the first prototype of the CJ line. No CJ-1s are known to still be in existence.
1944 The CJ-2 is developed. 45 examples of this model are built. Nine of these vehicles are known to still be in existence.
1945 Willys-Overland begins producing the Civilian Jeep (CJ) line, with the introduction of the CJ-2A model. 214,202 units were produced between 1945 and 1949.
1946 Production begins on the Willys Jeep Wagon. Over 300,000 are manufactured between 1946 and 1965. This vehicle is the first 4-wheel drive wagon and is the predecessor to today's Grand Cherokee and Commander.
1947 The first Land Rover prototype is developed by the Wilks family using many spare Willys MB parts.
1947 Production begins on the Willys Jeep Truck. From 1947 to 1965, more than 200,000 are manufactured.
1948 Production begins on the Willys Jeepster. Only 19,000 vehicles are manufactured from 1948 to 1950.
1949 The CJ-3A is introduced, and more than 132,000 are made before the production ends in 1953.
1950 Willys CJ-V35 is developed for the US Marines. This vehicle was designed to be driven in deep water. Over 1000 units are delivered prior to the start of the Korean War. Only 29 of these vehicles are known to still be in existence.
1950 Willys develops the M38 / MC for the US Army. Similar to the CJ-V35, this vehicle is delivered to support troops in the Korean War.
1950 Willys Engineering develops a prototype vehicle known as the X-98.
1950 Willys develops the CJ-4 prototype. Only one of these vehicles produced. The vehicle is still in existence.
1950 Willys develops the CJ-4M and CJ-4MA (long-wheelbase) military prototypes. These vehicles are similar to the CJ-4 prototype but are outfitted with a snorkel, blackout lights, etc.
1952 The M38A1 begins production. This vehicle is designed to carry a rear-mounted 105mm or 106mm recoilless rifle.
1952 The Willys Aero compact car begins production.
1953 The BC Bobcat lightweight combat vehicle prototype is developed. This vehicle never goes into production.
1953 Kaiser buys Willys-Overland and changes name to Willys Motor Company.
1953 The CJ-3B goes into production. By 1968, over 155,494 are sold. Over 50 years later, this vehicle is still in production today, under license, by Mahindra of India.
1954 CJ-5 debuts at the start of its three-decade run. 603,303 units are produced over this time period.
1954 The M170 begins production. This vehicle is outfitted as either field ambulance or a six-man troop carrier.
1955 The USAF DJ is produced for non-combat maintenance and delivery work for use at US military bases.
1955 The CJ-6 is introduced. Based on the CJ-5, the vehicle features a wheelbase that is 20" longer. Only 50,172 units are produced.
1955 The DJ-3a debuts as a two-wheel drive version of the CJ-3a. This vehicle is used for postal delivery and a surrey-topped version is developed for use as a tour vehicle.
1955 The CJ-3B long-wheelbase vehicle begins production under license by several manufacturers around the world. This long-wheelbase vehicle is never produced in the United States.
1956 Production of the FC-150 truck begins.
1957 Production of the FC-170 truck begins.
1958 Production of the FC-170 DRW (dual rear wheel) truck begins.
1959 The M151 begins production under a joint effort of Jeep, AM General, and General Motors.
1960 The M606 is developed from the CJ-3B. Heavy-duty options are added to make the vehicle suitable for military use.
1963 Company changes name to Kaiser-Jeep Corporation.
1963 The J-Series Wagoneer debuts. Larger than the Willys Wagon, this vehicle is the first four wheel drive SUV featuring an automatic transmission.
1965 The Gladiator J-Series pickup debuts as a replacement for the Willys Pickup.
1964 The CJ-5A and CJ-6A Tuxedo Park editions begin production.
1965 Kaiser-Jeep discontinues production of Willys wagons and trucks, retiring the Willys name with the line.
1965 The DJ-5 replaces the DJ-3a model for use as a delivery and tour vehicle.
1965 The DJ-6 is introduced as a long-wheelbase version of the DJ-5.
1966 The Willys Jeepster Commando, based on the CJ-6 chassis, is introduced. This vehicle is offered in roadster, station wagon, pickup, or a power-top convertible.
1967 The DJ-6a is developed exclusively for postal use. AM General continues to produce this model throughout the 1980s.
1970 American Motors Corporation takes over Kaiser-Jeep.
1971 American General is spun off from American Motors Corporation. This company later produces the HMMWV.
1975 Willys-Overland resurrected as a wholesale/retail parts business.
1976 Offering an optional automatic transmission, the CJ-7 starts its 10-year run. This vehicle is slightly longer than the CJ-5. A total of 379,299 units are produced.
1977 The Jeep II concept is unveiled. This vehicle strongly resembles the original Willys MB and was designed to address fuel economy concerns.
1981 The CJ-8 "Scrambler" is introduced. Only 27,792 of these vehicles are produced. Though rare, these vehicles are very sought after for restoration.
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Posted 04 March 2006 - 11:36 PM

Tom, on Nov 12 2003, 08:01 PM, said:

Jim, Nice chart, I like the dates with them. Like you said it looks like the longest run is the CJ5...

But the CJ-3B continues to be produced in India under an original license from Willys. Mahindra and Mahindra still builds this model.
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SoilantGreen, on Mar 4 2006, 11:36 PM, said:

But the CJ-3B continues to be produced in India under an original license from Willys.  Mahindra and Mahindra still builds this model.

SoilantGreen,

Good to see you here, thanks for the info. :cool1:

Now for some questions, do you have any pics of the CJ3 that is still being produced that you can post :rolleyes: Does it actually look the same?
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Posted 05 March 2006 - 06:57 PM

One problem I see on the grille chart is that the listing for the Grand has 1993 to present as one model/line... When it has gone from the ZJ (1993-1998) to the WJ ( 1999-2004) and it shows the WJ grill only with the slightly slanted edges of the grill shell, and the "rounder" headlights... Where the ZJ has the upright grille slats, and the square healights... I would not expect it to have the WK or the XK, but the WJ is the most useful and best looking Jeep so why not seperate it from the rest??? :rolleyes:
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Posted 09 March 2006 - 06:47 PM

Jim B, on Mar 5 2006, 05:16 PM, said:

SoilantGreen, on Mar 4 2006, 11:36 PM, said:

But the CJ-3B continues to be produced in India under an original license from Willys.  Mahindra and Mahindra still builds this model.

SoilantGreen,

Good to see you here, thanks for the info. :drive:

Now for some questions, do you have any pics of the CJ3 that is still being produced that you can post :innocent: Does it actually look the same?

Mahindra called it the CJ-4 for a while, but we all know that the CJ-4 was a single AMERICAN built rig built as a test vehicle. No, it is not completely the same, as it has evolved over the years, most notably by the addition of a diesel engine as an option and turn signals mounted on the "wings", as they call the fenders.

There is usually a pretty good section on the CJ-3B site devoted to foreign license built stuff. I believe that M&M actually has a website to show what they currently offer. They even built their own version of the FC-150 and -170 Forward Control trucks that evolved into bus and ambulance bodied versions. Too bad the Marines thought of that first! Do a search for the M676, M677, M678, and M679. All had a Cerlist diesel too!
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