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CJ8 to M170 Conversion

#1 User is offline   Rollbar 

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Posted 07 January 2006 - 03:48 PM

This is what I am building. Converting a 1984 CJ8 to a 1955-1964 M-170 Ambulance/Troop hauler.
Front Line Ambulance Truck M-170 is designated as a special equipment vehicle as defined in AR 700-105.


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I sprayed the engine, tranny & T-case with one can of 23070 OD. It's cold out so there is a little sheen to it because it's taking longer to dry. I am going to order more paint on Monday and start on the tub, I will give you before & after pics.

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Before: Yes that's a Holly 650 double pumper.
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Feeling the wind in my hair.
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Funny, it seems like I'm not going anywhere. :bounce:
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After: I think I have some stock valve covers for the 360, I have to look in my inventory.
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  Posted 08 January 2006 - 11:48 AM

I like it! Engine looks real nice in OD. :ya: That shade does not seem too brown. :bounce: What are you going to do with the shiny valve covers :bounce: Keep those updates coming. :bounce:

Change out the small pics for larger ones, my eyes are getting tire. :wub:
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Posted 08 January 2006 - 02:31 PM

Jim B, on Jan 8 2006, 11:48 AM, said:

What are you going to do with the shiny valve covers :bounce:


It does look tough w/the OD don't it. :wub: :bounce:

I have to check my inventory to see if I have a set of 360 vakve covers, I think I do, if so Ya think I should use them even though the performer intake will still be aluminum.......

Should I paint the Alt. OD also?
I want to leave the pully's black & the brackets black, what do ya think?

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  Posted 09 January 2006 - 08:56 AM

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I have to check my inventory to see if I have a set of 360 vakve covers, I think I do, if so Ya think I should use them even though the performer intake will still be aluminum.......

I can't speak for you, but if it was my project I would. :lol:

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Should I paint the Alt. OD also?

No, paint it black. Look at a pic of my engine, it was done like if it came out of the factory.

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I want to leave the pully's black & the brackets black, what do ya think?

Yes, it is correct and it looks great that way. :ya:

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P.S. I just may have to put everyones name on this Jeep when I'm done getting ideas from the post.  :wacko: 

I prefer that you paint Peaches on the side of the M170 rather than my name. :ymca: :gun:

Btw, pics look great! :wacko:
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Posted 09 January 2006 - 09:21 AM

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 04:02 PM

Rollbar it looks great... :cool1: Jim's right doesnt look brown at all ...
Paint it black....




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Posted 09 January 2006 - 05:23 PM

Thanks everyone, I am also impressed on the color.

I just ordered 4 spray cans & 1 gallon of paint (23070) from Rapco for a grand total of $96.00. :biggrin1:

I'm keeping a tab on everything I spend.

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P.S. I have two guy sending me pics of a M38A1 dash so I can convert it into he CJ8M170.
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Posted 09 January 2006 - 10:19 PM

Rollbar, stop your project and buy this!!!

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 10:25 PM

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Rollbar, stop your project and buy this!!!

military ambulance

Thanks, to bad it's a Cheby. :biggrin1:
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  Posted 10 January 2006 - 08:09 AM

Rollbar, on Jan 9 2006, 05:23 PM, said:

I just ordered 4 spray cans & 1 gallon of paint (23070) from Rapco

P.S. I have two guy sending me pics of a M38A1 dash so I can convert it into he CJ8M170.  :cool1:

Did you decide on what primer you were going to use :biggrin1:

If you don't get the dash pics let me know. I'll head over to a guy I know and get a pic for you. Might have to wait till the weekend though.

Check out these tail lights with black out lights on them. Don't know if they are correct for your M170 though.
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Posted 10 January 2006 - 10:48 AM

Jim, I have a pair of those tail lights that I got over the web. They are new without the lights on the back (and cost a lot less). I am going to adapt them for my Jeep someday (sounds like you and your fenders). I will bring them Friday night to show you.
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Posted 10 January 2006 - 10:25 PM

Jim B, on Jan 10 2006, 08:09 AM, said:

Rollbar, on Jan 9 2006, 05:23 PM, said:

I just ordered 4 spray cans & 1 gallon of paint (23070) from Rapco

P.S. I have two guy sending me pics of a M38A1 dash so I can convert it into he CJ8M170. 

Did you decide on what primer you were going to use :angry1:

If you don't get the dash pics let me know. I'll head over to a guy I know and get a pic for you. Might have to wait till the weekend though.

Check out these tail lights with black out lights on them. Don't know if they are correct for your M170 though.
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I got the Dash pics thanks.
I think the tail lights are correct. thanks.
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Posted 11 January 2006 - 07:17 PM

Well I got the new Fording Kit for the M-170 build, the hose is on the way, it will be here shortly.

I did not seperate them yet but the black pipe is the air hose support pipe. The green pipe is the Fording pipe. The cap is for the top of the hose. All are NOS.

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HERE is how/where the rear tail pipe hooks up to go under water:
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P.S. Jim, I bet you could use that rear tail pipe, :lol:

I just wanted to say that all these things I have bought from Midwest Military (John) & they are wonderfull to do business with. :gun:
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  Posted 12 January 2006 - 10:19 AM

Rollbar, on Jan 11 2006, 07:17 PM, said:

the hose is on the way, it will be here shortly.

Was not the hose part of the kit :cool1:

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Posted 12 January 2006 - 11:31 AM

Yes it was & John called & said it is being shipped as we speak, he was out of it so another vendor is sending it. John was right on top of the situation.

Problem is, how am I gonna adapt a V8, dual exhaust into that little 1 1/4" pipe. :lol: :lol: :cool1:

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P.S.S. My snorkle is better than your snorkle, :lol:
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Posted 13 January 2006 - 04:52 PM

Ok, here it is, the snorkle hose, heavy duty. That old cloth fabric sure does feel good, no plastic here folks.

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  Posted 14 January 2006 - 09:02 AM

Looks great! :ya: Nothing like the feel and look of the real thing. :whistle:


That's what I keep telling Peaches, :lol: :lol: :ya: :1thumb: :gun:

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS, I ment to hit quote but I hit EDIT instead. I'll just tell her U did it, :shock: :amazed: :gun:
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Posted 19 January 2006 - 04:09 PM

Well I just recieved the gallon od OD & some spray cans, :whistle: for the project, now I guess I can start on the frame. I just ordered a gallon of the red oxide primer & 3 spray cans. Boy you love spending my $$.

I wonder if a rust inhibitor will work w/their paint? I asked them & they always sandblast the Jeep since they are not near salt etc. They have heard of the Por-15 but they will not recomend anything with their paint. Hummmmmmm. :naughty:

I want to spread some in the holes & cut some metal off another Jeep to fill the voids.

Any ideas?

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  Posted 20 January 2006 - 02:31 PM

Rollbar, on Jan 19 2006, 04:09 PM, said:

I want to spread some in the holes & cut some metal off another Jeep  to fill the voids. 

I'd say fix the holes and reinforce. Would not worry too much about the rust inhibitor if you have bare metal as if you put in a good 2 coats of the red oxide primer and their enamel it would be good enough.

They sell their stuff to most of the northern east coast guys where streets get salted. Hey, if you see it come back than use por15 on top of it because it needs rust to act on anyway. :biggrin1:
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 05:04 PM

Sounds good Jim, thanks.


O.K. The frame is done, (it may have a little sheen to it, just painted but it drys fast). It took 2 1/2 cans & waiting on the primer to do the tub.
I sanded the black rustolem w/a scotch bright pad & got rid of the gloss. The pad took it down very well & the paint sticks great. I love this OD paint, touch up is a breeze.
The pics were took in the garage under floresent lights & w/a flash, the paint should look different out in the sunlight.
Next I'll work on the axles & springs.

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  Posted 20 January 2006 - 05:19 PM

Darn Rollbar,

It looks very clean, my hats off to you. :wacko: Outstanding work, I gathered you could not resist and started painting on it today. The 2.5 cans, primer or paint :biggrin1:

Btw, the pics you have been posting lately are very clear and crisp, did you refill the lighter :tongue1: :dance1:
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 05:23 PM

Two & 1/2 cans of paint, the black gloss rustolem was a primer etc. The paint feels hard on top of the rustolem. I bought 4 cans w/the gallon for touch up but U R right, I couldn't resist.

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  Posted 20 January 2006 - 05:33 PM

Keep the rest of the cans for touch up, trust me you'll need it and it blends in very well... the magic of OD. :tongue1: Mix a small portion of your gallon batch and work of that as much as you can.

I'm already down to 1/3 can on the primer and 1 can left out of two of paint just on the oil pan, pulley bracket, Tcase and a few ends.

I'm doing the following:

Oxide Primer:
Light coat
Fill coat

Paint:
Light coat
Fill coat

Takes me 2 days. :dance1:

Still don't have a paint booth. :biggrin1:
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 05:38 PM

I ordered a gallon of red oxide primer & three spray cans of the primer for hard corners that I can't get the big gun into. Rapco told me to mix the gallon of paint (OD) w/20% xyzlene. Do I mix the primer also?

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P.S.S. B-4 U paint, wet the floor down & leave it wet while U paint, don't squeegee it dry.
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 08:59 PM

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After further research these are the style for the era of the yr. that I am building.

Thanks GreenL for showing them to me.

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  Posted 21 January 2006 - 09:01 AM

Rollbar, on Jan 20 2006, 05:38 PM, said:

Rapco told me to mix the gallon of paint (OD) w/20% xyzlene.  Do I mix the primer also?

If I tell you I would have to kill you. :cool: Actually I'm not sure :cool: since I've only used the spray cans from them. I would say a call needs to be made, come back and let us know for future ref. You might want to post and update the OD paint thread information when it comes to using & mixing the gallon OD. :ya:
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Posted 28 January 2006 - 04:41 PM

Hummmm, Major, maybe I can name mine the XM-170, it's a proto type also. :sneak: :naughty:
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Posted 28 January 2006 - 05:04 PM

Well here are some more pics of the conversion, note the front spring hangers, these were in the rear but I'm using the rear springs up front. I even welded a brace on each side for strength, cheaper than the ones they sell & probably as strong. I built a set of springs for the back. I used yJ Sky Jacker spring & added some leafs for towing, towing air bags will be in the future, maybe. The tire carrier you see mounts on the roll bar of the Jeep, I think it will look good mounted w/the Military tire on it.

Here U go:
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Posted 31 January 2006 - 05:37 PM

Well I just ordered these items for the build from Midwest Military, boy JimB, U sure do love spending my $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :shock: :amazed: :lol: :gun:

All NOS Parts: ----> I'll take a pic when it the stuff gets here. :tongue1:

Front Shackels
Front Brackets for the shackles
Pins for the shackles
Clips & chains for the front
Driver side mirror
Driver side mirror arm
Rear view mirror
Hood mount bracket for shovel
Shovel
Red side marker reflectors
Rear black out taillights, black out & stop etc.
Front black out lights where the turn siginals go on a modern Jeep

Cost: $- - -.- -

I will give U a tally of the cost of the build @ the end, :amazed: :whistle: :cry1: :biggrin1:

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P.S. I also am getting a stock front flat bumper & rear bumperets from a Jeeper, every little bit counts. :ya:

P.S.S.Don't anybody listen to Jim anymore when he suggest a project for you to build, I'll have to name it jim's Jeep, get it, Jim'sssssss Jeep. :naughty: . Just kidding, it's a blast! :2thumup: :biggrin1: :whistle:
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