Bleeding Brakes Remove that unwanted air
#1
Posted 03 November 2003 - 11:17 PM
There is the vacuum pump brake bleeder. It is a small hand pump that you pump a vacuum with, then you open the brake bleeder valve and it is supposed to pull the fluid from the master cylinder out through the pump to remove any air in the system.
The second are brake bleeders that replace the wheel cylinder bleeder valve with one that is a check valve. When you open them up you just have to push on the brake pedal, the check valve allows the fluid and air to be forced out but when you let up on the brake pedal the check valve then closes so no air gets back in the cylinders. An easy way to bleed brakes
The last is a system I have used where you take a small squeeze bottle with a small tapered snout. Put a plastic tube on the snout and fill the bottle with brake fluid force out the air then push the tube on to the brake bleeder port, open it and force the fluid that is in the cylinder and brake lines back up through the master cylinder. That will force the air back out through the master cylinder.
All of these systems can be used to refreash the brake fluid as well as bleed the system.
#2
Posted 05 November 2003 - 11:22 PM
#3
Posted 05 November 2003 - 11:57 PM
I use your #2 description, I think they are called Solo Bleed. Not sure but I think I purchased them at JC Whitney.
Hey did you or anyone else here ever try the gravity bleed? Heard that works well and it's pretty simple.
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#4
Posted 06 November 2003 - 07:51 AM
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#5
Posted 06 November 2003 - 09:55 PM
The bleed ports with the check valve, (solo bleed) came with the Warn full floater kit. They make bleeding brakes so easy, I wonder why we do not see them more often?
#6
Posted 20 March 2004 - 11:31 AM
When I have to do it by myself (usually), I stick one end of a piece of clear plastic tubing over the bleeder valve and the other end into a plastic container so it's submerged in a little brake fluid on the bottom. I reach in and apply the brakes while I look uner the Jeep and watch the fluid go through the tube. The first time clears the air from the tube and then you can watch the air leave the brake system. the fluid in the bottom of the container stops any air from returning to the system. I now flush the whole brake system more often because it's so easy. Keep an eye on that master cylinder!
#7
Posted 28 March 2004 - 11:19 PM
JeepinIan, on Nov 6 2003, 07:51 AM, said:
Ian, I've never done it so what do you do open up all of your bleeders & keep the MC full & that's it.
How long do you wait or do you just cycle a couple of time through the MC refill.
Thanks,
RollBar
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#8
Posted 29 March 2004 - 08:10 PM
I've watched someone do this once and it worked out pretty good. There might be other ways but the way he did it was one at a time, just like you normally would in the same order. The valve is not open all the way, just enough, leave it overnight to drip into small container.
Make sure you have plenty of fluid in your reservoir, you are not going to run out.
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#9
Posted 29 March 2004 - 08:33 PM
EDIT : seems like im always doin something meant for two people - by myself... :sneak:
#10
Posted 29 March 2004 - 08:46 PM
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#11
Posted 30 March 2004 - 09:00 AM
281 QuadCam, on Mar 29 2004, 08:33 PM, said:
Yes they work real good as Tom can also attest too.
Even though you can do this by yourself I use a few mixtures of ideas listed here. For example, I use TJRon's idea of a plastic tube into a small container (you can pick this up cheap at the auto parts).
If my wife is around I'll still be under the vehicle watching the plastic tube and tell her to stop once I see that there is no more air. If she is not around, I'm on my own, can't be as nosey getting in and out of the Jeep more often.
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#12
Posted 23 November 2006 - 09:52 PM
Rollbar
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#13
Posted 24 November 2006 - 11:40 AM
Rollbar, on Nov 23 2006, 09:52 PM, said:
I expect no less than detail pictures, instructions, brief and to the point write up. Oh, and how much of a mess if any.
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#14
Posted 24 November 2006 - 11:53 AM
Jim B, on Nov 24 2006, 12:40 PM, said:
Rollbar, on Nov 23 2006, 09:52 PM, said:
I expect no less than detail pictures, instructions, brief and to the point write up. Oh, and how much of a mess if any.
Well o.k. I'll try to remember, so U want a uninstall & a reinstall, it might cost U :sneak: , oh, but I still owe U anyway,
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#15
Posted 25 November 2006 - 09:06 PM
Next we bled the brakes w/a hand vacuum pump which worked great on the front (pumped it down to 24") & took no time but the back was sucking some air off the bleeders so we used a bottle and it worked well. We ran two complete large bottles of fluid through the system for a complete flush. Cleaned up and completed the job.
Later I took the old MC back to get a refund on my core & bought Peach some new wires, cap and rotor, gunked the engine & now she's running fine. Oil change next Friday B-4 the trip down to the show.
Signed,
RollBar
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P.S. Thanks to Travis (Treasure Coast Jeep Club) for the help with the project.
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#16
Posted 27 November 2006 - 08:24 AM
Btw, I want to see a picture of the pump hooked up and a short video clip while it's working.
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#17
Posted 27 November 2006 - 04:18 PM
As for the video clip, I can bring the pump w/me to the show & U take the video :sneak: cause that's just a little over my head. Remember, I only take pictures when the lighter is full.
I would use the vacuum over anything else. Plus it sucked out some crud and dirt.
Rollbar
P.S. I can lock some wheels up w/33"tires.
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#18
Posted 30 November 2006 - 11:05 AM
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#19
Posted 30 November 2006 - 02:01 PM
Fuzz, on Nov 30 2006, 12:05 PM, said:
Try NAPA or 4WDH, remember hand vacuum pump.
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#20
Posted 30 November 2006 - 09:24 PM
The Hand Vacuum Pump kit is designed for easy use by do-it-your-selfers on any type of vehicle. It includes everything necessary for automotive tune-ups, diagnotic tests, liquid siphoning and one-person brake bleeding. The Hand Vacuum Pump is made of durable PVC which is resistant to all types of fluids and is easily maintained by the user. The center facing guage provides clear and easy viewing for left and right hand users.
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#21
Posted 01 December 2006 - 11:37 AM
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