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Posted 18 December 2005 - 12:29 PM

Here it is
This Jeep was used by General Norman Patton Bradly Persing a famous doughboy at the Battle of Pillsbury Hill!
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Posted 18 December 2005 - 01:35 PM

Nice but I didn't know Patton had a Jeep w/:amazed: headlights. :shock: :sneak: :wacko:

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 01:41 PM

Authenic Jeep markings & where to get the info. :scratch:

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You'll find more info on the G503 G758 page. Willys Military jeeps built after WWII did not have frame numbers. The M170 left Willys with two ID serial plates. One on the dash and one in the right aft side of the tub. Portrayal press sells the Army Regulation covering vehicle marking based on the period of use there are 2 different manuals there for sale.
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* Motor vehicle markings, WW2 (AR850-5, 1942 with all changes 1942-44). 88 pages. #AR850-5/42 ... $15
* Vehicle markings, 1945-1954. End of WW2 and postwar (including Korean War) 104 pages. #AR850-45/54 ... $19
* Camouflage painting of vehicles and equipment. 1942. #FM5-21 ... $8
* Markings of late 1950s, 1960s (TB746-93-1). 62 pages. #TB746-93-1 ... $22
* Markings of 1990s. Includes camouflage schemes. Abridged 401 page edition. 137 pages. #TB43-0209A ... $20

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 03:33 PM

More Military markings. Military Stencils, Fonts & Markings

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 06:29 PM

While your at it do this too
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Posted 18 December 2005 - 09:58 PM

SWEEEEeeeeeeeeeetttt.

Hey Major I forgot to ask or forgot if I seen it in writing but did U paint the Jeep or did U have it done?
How much did U use, 1/2-3/4 gallon?

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Posted 18 December 2005 - 10:49 PM

Rollbar, on Dec 18 2005, 08:58 PM, said:

SWEEEEeeeeeeeeeetttt.

Hey Major I forgot to ask or forgot if I seen it in writing but did U paint the Jeep or did U have it done?
How much did U use, 1/2-3/4 gallon?

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Two of my laborers sanded and painted it. Cost free "cause they like me"
1/2 Gallon put 3 coats on. Painted it in my driveway (see pics, Painted it where it sets) since I have no garage. It took two men 1 hour to strip parts and 4 hours to sand it, Next day, letting it dry between coats, about 4 hours. :lol:

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  Posted 19 December 2005 - 11:09 AM

Rollbar,

I see you've been doing your homework. G503 is "the best" source of information for Military restoration, information there is on the net.

Major, Bob's website is also one of the better informative ones when it comes to WWII. I purchased a CD from him on how to take apart a T84J tranny that he made a while back.

Let's hash it out with Admin over by "Support & Suggestions" on this ne forum. I'm asking that he divide some of the info to keep it all under contents and Mr. Rollbar can start out an M170 thread. :lol:
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  Posted 22 December 2005 - 01:50 PM

Hey Major,

Forgot to ask you, what's up with the different shade of OD on the hood :) Was this done because you like it this way did you run out of paint :nerd:

Btw, I like the way the markings came out especially the Nellybelle on the door. Now if you can tell us if this was an ex girl friend or did you make or take of points with the wife :devil: :devil:

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Posted 22 December 2005 - 03:03 PM

Jim B, on Dec 22 2005, 01:50 PM, said:

Btw, I like the way the markings came out especially the Nellybelle on the door. Now if you can tell us if this was an ex girl friend or did you make or take of points with the wife :question: :1thumb:

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Nellybelle was the name of the Jeep that Pat Butram drove on the old ROY ROGER'S TV Program.......back in the days of black/white TV.


NOW, start humming HAPPY TRAILS.......
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  Posted 23 December 2005 - 08:14 AM

Darn you two guys are old, even I can't remember that far back! :1thumb: :question:
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Posted 23 December 2005 - 11:51 AM

I don't know Jim but I can remember when the 1949 Olds in the background was new. :question:
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Posted 23 December 2005 - 11:56 AM

:question:

Be careful, they may just put the OVER THE HILL GANG guys (the old FOGIES with the STOGIES) into the new VINTAGE CORNER category.
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Posted 23 December 2005 - 12:51 PM

Mountain Man, on Dec 23 2005, 11:56 AM, said:

:amazed:

Be careful, they may just put the OVER THE HILL GANG guys (the old FOGIES with the STOGIES) into the new VINTAGE CORNER category.

Well they made it. :sneak: :sneak: :lol: :whistle: :2thumup: :dance1: :cry1:
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Posted 23 December 2005 - 01:36 PM

Rollbar, on Dec 23 2005, 12:51 PM, said:

Mountain Man, on Dec 23 2005, 11:56 AM, said:

:cry1:

Be careful, they may just put the OVER THE HILL GANG guys (the old FOGIES with the STOGIES) into the new VINTAGE CORNER category.

Well they made it. :sneak: :sneak: :lol: :dance1: :whistle: :amazed: :cry1:

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JACK, are you going to let ROLLBAR get away with that?

I don't remember the new 1949 Olds.............. :nono:

:lol: But, I do enjoy a good cigar, now and then!
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Posted 23 December 2005 - 04:41 PM

Marty, wouldn't the "over the hill gang" be those that have the time and ability to go 4wheeling more often? If so then I don't mind being in that group. :2thumup: :whistle:
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Posted 23 December 2005 - 05:50 PM

Jack H, on Dec 23 2005, 04:41 PM, said:

the "over the hill gang" be those that have the time and ability to go 4wheeling more often?

Boy did that hurt, :2thumup: but true. :sneak:
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Posted 24 December 2005 - 11:07 AM

Jack H, on Dec 23 2005, 04:41 PM, said:

Marty, wouldn't the "over the hill gang" be those that have the time and ability to go 4wheeling more often? If so then I don't mind being in that group. :lol: :cool:

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EXACTLY! Now, we have to introduce you to the great world of smoking a cigar while four wheeling in a Jeep!
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Posted 24 December 2005 - 06:33 PM

Hey Major, are those tires DOT rated? The reason I ask is I was talking to someone today & they told me to check into it before I bought them, they said they might not be but that was confusing to me.

They also said that other trie company's sell a similar tire, I looked but I only seen the newer military type tire. I'll have to ask my tire guy on Tuesday if no one else knows.

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 11:12 PM

By law all "new" tires sold to thepublic must be DOT approved. Each DOT number is printed in the tire sidewall of the tires I bought. A form comes with the tires to register them so "If" something were to happen the DOT has the tire info/ :2thumup:

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 11:34 PM

Thanks, Bill & Merry Christmas.
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Posted 15 January 2006 - 03:04 PM

HEy Bill, question, how are those tire wearing on the pavment (pics) & does the Jeep seem to walk all over the road or anything like that.

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Posted 26 January 2006 - 12:23 AM

1960 Tire Application Service Bulletin.


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Posted 26 January 2006 - 12:54 PM

Wow, nice info.

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Posted 26 January 2006 - 04:22 PM

NDCC tire wear update
After around 2000 miles I have worn about 1 MM, measured from a new NDCC tire. Tread depth is 10 MM to wear bars, so I am looking at about 20,000 miles of driving!

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Posted 26 January 2006 - 05:02 PM

I forgot, do U have the 4 ply or 6 ply?

Shouldn't they wear different?

I'm gonna buy the 6 ply (700-16 FIRESTONE MILITARY NDCC #18364) & on cold day's my teeth will rattle out, :sneak: I just have to find some 16" CJ rims & I will order my 5 tires.

If I can't I will have to go w/the 700-15 FIRESTONE MILITARY NDCC #18360.

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Posted 26 January 2006 - 10:03 PM

I have 6 ply

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  Posted 27 January 2006 - 09:10 AM

Since this is a 1960 Bulletin brings up a question... are the current tire manufactures following the same make up or specs of the tires now being made with regards to construction other than the ply count. :lol: :lol:
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Posted 27 January 2006 - 03:35 PM

Jim B, on Jan 27 2006, 09:10 AM, said:

Since this is a 1960 Bulletin brings up a question... are the current tire manufactures following the same make up or specs of the tires now being made with regards to construction other than the ply count. :unsure: :lol:

I was thinking of asking that question but I didn't want to get flamed :lol: by TheMajor. :lol: :sneak: :lol:
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Posted 28 January 2006 - 12:00 AM

The Coker site says that Coker owns the tire molds. they have manufactuers bid on making X amout of tires for Coker in a run. The tires are made of modern tire materials that the particular plant makes its modern tires with, The tires must meet or exceed DOT regulations for the safety of the general public. The tires I have are not Firestone, the name is inprinted in the mold, so I do not know what company made them but a person with a fine demeaner and public speaking qualities could call and ask. The tires must be safe since they are installed on priceless vehicles from the past. :sneak:

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