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Posted 18 September 2013 - 07:48 AM

This is the next upcoming passenger car engine oil upgrade coming. If I recall correctly, whe it does come out, you need to be aware as it will not be backwards compatable, adn there will have to be different oil for the older engines.

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September 18, 2013

GF-6 Delayed Again


By Steve Swedberg

The first licensing date for GF-6, the next passenger car engine oil upgrade, has been delayed until January 2017, according to several industry sources. The reason cited is delays in engine test development.

Originally, the automotive industry had requested that GF-6 oils be widely available for consumers by January 2016, to coincide with increased fuel economy limits being introduced by the U.S. government. However, heavy-duty engine manufacturers also proposed a diesel oil upgrade, called PC-11, targeting it for the same time frame and for similar reasons. Both categories are slated to include multiple new engine test procedures. GF-6 alone will have basically all new or revised engine test protocols, for example.

Many lubricants industry stakeholders, especially the additive companies who work through the American Chemistry Council, had cautioned that the need to simultaneously develop two engine oil categories requiring up to a dozen new and revised engine tests, as well as managing updates to any other test procedures, was likely to put too much stress on the oil category development process. That prediction has again proven correct.

The auto industry’s International Lubricants Standards Advisory Committee first asked for a new passenger car engine oil category back in November 2011. At that time, ILSAC had requested that GF-6 be ready for licensing by the American Petroleum Institute by Jan. 1, 2015. That would have allowed for full commercial introduction of the new oils by January 2016.

By August 2012, however, the timing for first licensing had shifted to Jan. 1, 2016, because no one in the industry wanted to have any overlap in technical demonstrations for the new oils. Also, API typically asks for a one-year waiting period between first licensing and mandatory use of a new oil category, to assure a level playing field for all candidate products.

In December 2012, GF-6’s first-licensing date was pushed back again, this time to September 2016, due to delays in developing new and revised tests and to accommodate the increasing workload for PC-11 development.

After a report this summer by a new Test Development Readiness Task Force, the Auto-Oil Advisory Panel that is developing the passenger car engine oil category again moved the timing, now to Jan. 1, 2017.

This task force was established in June, and includes representatives of Chrysler, Ford, General Motors and Toyota, as well as the two independent test laboratories Intertek and Southwest Research Institute. The task force’s objectives are to manage the progress of test development and precision matrix preparations. The task force is to monitor all test development timelines; review all preparations for precision matrices; and report on the installation of test stands at matrix laboratories, test stand verification testing and matrix hardware procurement. It also will be helping to draft test procedures.

The Test Development Readiness Task Force is expected to provide a single report on the progress of all test developments at the Auto-Oil group’s meetings, focusing on progress and timing.

GF-6 will require at least three completely new tests: a Timing Chain Wear Test being developed by Ford; a Low Speed Pre-ignition Test, also from Ford; and a Chrysler Oxidation Test. Separately, GM is developing an oxidation test as well to replace the Sequence IIIG engine test, but doesn’t plan to place it under ASTM management.

In addition, GF-6 will have a revised Sequence VG/H test for control of engine deposits and a revised Sequence IVB (now sponsored by Toyota) to measure valvetrain wear. There’s also a revised Sequence VID test for demonstrating fuel economy improvement, sponsored by GM and using an engine of more modern vintage than the current test.

When all of these changes are coupled with the development work going on for PC-11 on the heavy-duty engine oil side, it is obvious that timing and availability of space, people and funds will be at a premium.

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 08:38 AM

View PostJeepinIan, on 18 September 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:

This is the next upcoming passenger car engine oil upgrade coming. If I recall correctly, when it does come out, you need to be aware as it will not be backwards compatible, and there will have to be different oil for the older engines.

Let me see if I understand...

I have a 2005 Diesel Ram and a Toyota SUV gas. Do I have to continue to use the old oil and if I want to go to GF6 all these tests have to be done on the vehicles before hand. I gather the old diesel would not be able to use it, could not determine if they would actually phase out the old oil.

Can you clarify Mr. Guru since your are in the industry. :1motor: :banghead2:
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Posted 18 September 2013 - 10:51 AM

You would have ot use the "old" oil as the additives will not be tested on the old engines. From what I understand, there will be 2 different and current oils for sale. You will have to pay attention to what oil you buy.

As an aside, you should be checking the oil you buy now, especially if you get it at a discount oil seller. I have found SA grade oil at gas stations (store brand) when I needed a quart for the Honda I have. MAKE SURE TO CHECK THE SAE DESIGNATION AND THAT YOU USE A NAME BRAND OIL, NOT A STORE BRAND. They say it will be OK for top off, but it really is not. The state of MIchigan just put a stop sell on a oil company that was selling non current grade oil.
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