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Wrenching 4/10/10 my House tranny, t case or pressure plate?

#1 User is offline   Brian 

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 01:45 PM

had a blast this past weekend, other than my "not going or staying into gear" problem i now have..

tooling around in 2wd my rear u joint popped... now it wont go into 4lo or 4hi.. Sergio managed to get it into 4hi and that lasted about 10ft. when i put it into gear it pops out immediately.

this to me sounds like i have crap inside the pressure plate area and my clutch isnt fully disengaged. in my driveway i am able to put it in all gears without the clutch in....

i was not in water or mud at the time when it popped out but did my share of driving deep all day. so things might be packed in there and just need cleaned...

but why would this all of a suddenly happen as soon as the u joint popped out? odd timing if you ask me..



Rob said he would help me out on Saturday with whatever needs to be done. i have tools and what i dont have, there is a Home Depot right across the street.

SmallJeep has offered me a new t case (np231) for free. :2thumup: i just need to get it here somehow...

figured i could swap the t case and pray for the best once i clean the pressure plates.. ?? kinda a testing each out and move on to the next if it doesnt work..

if it is the tranny, i dont know what i am going to do. i dont feel comfortable opening that up. OR the t case, but thanks to SmallJeep thats taken care of..


who wants to come help me out? i can cook some burgers and have adult drinks ready. driveway is pretty shaded, fridge in garage..

all help is appreciated. i NEED to get running by July 17th... Humps...
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Posted 05 July 2010 - 02:09 PM

hey i just walked in the door ... i left a message on your trusty phone ..... ijust saying i couldn't make it today had a stone job i was volunteered for.. glad you got it home sorry for the lack of me taking my phone with me ... i will try to come that way if there is a wrenching party and bring the TC for ya...
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Posted 05 July 2010 - 02:15 PM

My brother in law lives in ochechobee, 45 min from your place. He will be coming down here Wednesday morning. Let's work out you guys meeting up just in case you can't make it down on Saturday. I would love to have you join, but its 30 min past corbett from you. Not exactly a short trip.
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Posted 05 July 2010 - 07:23 PM

make sure that the tc from smalljeep will work with your setup brian. i know when i was looking for a new tc i found out with my auto trans i needed a 23 spline with the long shaft. pretty sure brian has an ax-15 and smalljeep an ax-5. do they use the same tc setup? anyone?
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Posted 05 July 2010 - 08:13 PM

smallJEEP and I will be there as long as we are breathing. See y'all Saturday.

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 09:23 PM

www.4x4help.com/tech/wrangler-standard.htm

that might help, all the spects on tranny, engine and tcase...

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 09:34 PM

if smalljeep's tcase came from a 6cyl then u r ok, if it came from a 4 cyl then the shaft is 21 spline and u need a 23 spline
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Posted 05 July 2010 - 11:45 PM

View PostPigPen, on Jul 5 2010, 10:34 PM, said:

if smalljeep's tcase came from a 6cyl then u r ok, if it came from a 4 cyl then the shaft is 21 spline and u need a 23 spline


well there's your problem. smallJeep has a 4cyl and Brian has a 6cyl. we'll need to figure out how to work around that if Brian's t-case is shot.

Brian, as far as i know i don't have any pressing engagements saturday, so i'll head over and help out (without getting lost :2thumup:). i'll be taking my dad's truck so anyone who wants to ride along is welcome. 33s and 3.07s are no fun on the highway
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 12:04 AM

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who wants to come help me out? i can cook some burgers and have adult drinks ready. driveway is pretty shaded, fridge in garage..

all help is appreciated. i NEED to get running by July 17th... Humps
maybe you need to worry about just getting your jeep running and not so much about making it out to the humps on the 17th ... your priorities are all outta whack.... BTW if you need a ax15 i have one for cheap.....$500
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 06:13 AM

View PostSouthernStyleV8, on Jul 6 2010, 01:04 AM, said:

maybe you need to worry about just getting your jeep running and not so much about making it out to the humps on the 17th ... your priorities are all outta whack.... BTW if you need a ax15 i have one for cheap.....$500

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 06:51 AM

View PostSouthernStyleV8, on Jul 6 2010, 01:04 AM, said:

maybe you need to worry about just getting your jeep running and not so much about making it out to the humps on the 17th ... your priorities are all outta whack....



His priorities seem to be in perfect whack to me. He's getting the Jeep running for the Humps ride. Makes perfect sense to me.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 07:21 AM

View PostPigPen, on Jul 5 2010, 10:34 PM, said:

if smalljeep's tcase came from a 6cyl then u r ok, if it came from a 4 cyl then the shaft is 21 spline and u need a 23 spline


:2thumup: looks like you have to open up your tc brian. not a hard job at all. i just did it to mine when i installed a sye. we'll see if i can get up by you sat.
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 07:36 AM

thanks for the help everyone. i am sure we will get to the bottom of this problem and get it fixed up Saturday. i had my sprinklers on under the jeep for a good 1/2 hour yesterday so it should be pretty clean for us to work in there. :2thumup:

since the splines are different on these 2 t cases.. are all the other parts interchangeable? any at all? would be nice if my chain is bad and i could use his or something to that effect.

i will be up early, getting ready for the day Saturday morning. if you do not know my address, please PM me for it.
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 07:55 AM

Good luck man. Sorry I cant make it. Got prior committments on Saturday :thumbsup: . Keep me posted. :2thumup:
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 07:56 AM

like i said i got most of the parts ill bring with me , when i get home ill make a list of what i got

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 08:01 AM

View Post96xj, on Jul 6 2010, 08:56 AM, said:

like i said i got most of the parts ill bring with me , when i get home ill make a list of what i got


parts like TC parts or tools to work on it?
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 10:10 AM

View PostBrian, on Jul 6 2010, 09:01 AM, said:

parts like TC parts or tools to work on it?

i said that i have parts not tools :2thumup:

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 10:16 AM

just making sure.. thanks again bro..
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 08:39 PM

View PostBrian, on Jul 6 2010, 11:16 AM, said:

just making sure.. thanks again bro..


Brian, if you guys want to come to my shop in Stuart I'll help you swap out the input shafts. I have a complete shop with all the tools needed.

Plus I still have those steering parts you wanted/needed.

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Posted 08 July 2010 - 04:25 PM

ok i an getting the too box together and gonna pull the TC off this trans. is there anything else you need?? or that i can bring?
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 05:20 PM

A tc shifted that actually stays in place? On the bottom of mine there are 2 clips. 1 is broke and therefore does not stay in. I have to grab the actually part on the tcase and shift it. Don't mind though. Been doing it since I bought it.

If you have a swivel attachment that would be nice. I have everything else.



On a side note, is budlight and burgers good? Hot dogs? Mac salad? Going to publix tomorrow to get some lunch.
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Posted 08 July 2010 - 10:06 PM

i am down for burgers and salads ... i will have my cooler with sodas but not a "drinker" and i am not implying anything but i just don't partake of the fermented fruits or grains.......LOL but it sounds great
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Posted 09 July 2010 - 09:49 AM

Chris, do you by chance have an extra oil cap? one that pushes in, not the turn style. i know you now have 2 motors and just curious... kinda want to ditch the duck tape :)
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Posted 09 July 2010 - 09:56 AM

Brian, what time do you plan on starting???

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 10:03 AM

as early as possible to be honest. i will probably head out at 8ish to get oil and a filter, burgers from Publix, rotate the tires on the Dodge and start prepping the jeep.. so in all reality, 9am would be a good time to show but that makes you leave at 7... soooo..... whenever you wanna show up is fine with me.


Jason are you coming?
Rob what time will you be showing up?
George, you coming to help out?
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Posted 09 July 2010 - 10:39 AM

Ok. Then that means I can sleep a little longer. LOL

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 02:13 PM

View PostMean Max, on Jul 6 2010, 09:39 PM, said:

Brian, if you guys want to come to my shop in Stuart I'll help you swap out the input shafts. I have a complete shop with all the tools needed.

Plus I still have those steering parts you wanted/needed.

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i just saw this... thanks but no thank you. its too far to flat tow in this situation.. but thank you agaiin.. i would like to get those parts though.

George are you still coming up?

Jason???
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Posted 09 July 2010 - 04:20 PM

View PostBrian, on Jul 9 2010, 03:13 PM, said:

i just saw this... thanks but no thank you. its too far to flat tow in this situation.. but thank you agaiin.. i would like to get those parts though.


I understand, no problem.

Let me know when/where it's convenient & we'll get those parts to you.

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 10:53 PM

ok t case shifter noo oil cap for a six cyl... tcase cooler of soda ... am i forgetting something ... i hope not..
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Posted 10 July 2010 - 09:36 PM

Well thanks to Chris, Megan and George for showing up this morning. There was no need to swap anything over. Filled the t case, drained the water from the trans, checked for water in the oil (none) and Chris drilled out the yoke where the bolt busted. Started it up and drove as it should.

So thanks for making the drive guys and girl. And a worker that girl is too. She was all up on the motor tightening things and getting tools and such. Helped finish the burgers too.


Chris was snooping around all my parts and saw some 2" shackles and smiled smiled at me. I said go ahead and take them. 10 min later he saw some leaf springs. Take them too I said. But I only asked for him to install my new to me brake booster as a trade. Of course, that was done and I now have power brakes again.

George, sorry you went home empty handed. Lol.


Thanks again!!!

See ya Saturday!!!!
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