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#1 User is offline   StuckZilla 

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Posted 06 December 2009 - 11:59 PM

Some of this is common sense and plain courtesy but it's worth mentioning.

- When posting material that has been sourced from another site at minimum it is etiquette credit the source
- Posting someone else's material with out prior consent is not nice and in many cases is copyright violation.

I and others put a good deal of effort into producing high quality images of local wheeling events for the 4x4 community. I'm thankful there are people who enjoy the pictures and make themselves available to the sport. The enthusiasm is apparent as some of these photos make there way into the content of other sites. If anything it's a stong case and one I support for keeping images as free as reasonably possible.

My standards for fair usage is pretty relaxxed and might be seen as a starting point when using pictures from other photographers.


What is available:
- I make all my 4x4 on and offroad pictures available free for non-commercial use.
What's granted is "single use" not ownership. Want to use it again elsewhere, that's fine, just let me know.

What are the limits and requirements
- Let me know what pictures you plan to use.
For some pictures I'm under agreement with commercial interests (promoters, media & tracks)
and might need to clear a photo before use. They may wish to add copyright and credit text to the image.

- Let me know if the image is to be used for commercial purposes.
- Images are not to be used to discredit or defame any person or company.
If a picture is needed to support a legal action please secure it through the proper legal channels.
- Where used provide photo credits.
This can be in the form of a text reading "photo by (name of photographer)" or a link back to the source url.
I typically drop this this requirement when the pictures are of just the owner and/or owner's rig.


As mentioned I really do welcome the use of my photos at other sites but think it's only fair for the efforts of all to be reflected.

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Posted 07 December 2009 - 10:40 AM

Bill, nicely put and I think this belongs in the Reinventing support forum for future ref.

I am moving the topic there.
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Posted 07 December 2009 - 11:38 AM

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Posted 07 December 2009 - 03:08 PM

View PostJim B, on Dec 7 2009, 10:40 AM, said:

Bill, nicely put and I think this belongs in the Reinventing support forum for future ref.

I am moving the topic there.

That's a great idea and thanks!
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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:49 PM

For those who take pictures and wish to protect them you can always Watermark the picture. I just though of this as I was looking at my daughter's new camera and her work with pictures that she has been doing lately.

The best way for someone that has a lot of pictures would be to batch. I personally have never done this myself but most picture software or viewers should be able to do this. I know photoshop is capable of this as well as any picture viewer one is using. Check the help section of your software and it should guide you. The only thing I'm not sure is the quality of the picture it would save. I personally do not upload anything bigger than 800x600 to my album but anyone can still use the picture on the web without giving the photographer credit which is really a :superman:

I also did a quick search and found a few free batch watermark programs that looked pretty good, have not tried them. If any one does please report and maybe post a sample. :bat:

WaterMarkV2

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Batch Edit, Convert and Resize Image - free PhotoRazor

Not sure if the last one I listed does watermarks but it seems to be a handy utility. Out of all the Watermark software I briefly looked at the first two seem to be pretty good from their explanation and they were free. Some other free ones did not look that great and there were many more you had to pay for as well.

I usually give credit when I'm posting a video or pic of the taker. I plan to make an album of our last trip in which I'll be using pictures from 3 people. Sometimes it is hard to add to each picture in some of these online albums, I always ask for permission though if this is the case even if I know it would not be a problem and they would look at me funny and say... why are you even asking me. I too old school and will ask anyway because it is the proper thing to do.
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Posted 08 December 2009 - 04:54 PM

Good info :bat: and it is a shame that we have to do things like this to protect our work or at least get credit for it.
I think as minimum it is common courtesy to at least mention who the the photographer is.
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Posted 09 December 2009 - 05:09 PM

Jim,

Thanks for the info. I'm trying out some organizers and batch stampers (free ones that is). I'm playing with Google's Picasas at the moment. It's easy to use, does batch but I'm a little miff'd it does't do or I just can't figure out how to change fonts and enter more than one line of text. As expected it does figure out if it's on a light or dark background and adjusts acordingly.



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Posted 10 December 2009 - 12:10 AM

I'll make it simple, anyone on Jeeptalk can use any of my photo's anytime you like. The only thing I ask is that you do not post them on some porn site :lol: The name is John B. not john Holmes :bore:
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Posted 10 December 2009 - 08:08 AM

View PostStuckZilla, on Dec 9 2009, 05:09 PM, said:

Jim,

Thanks for the info. I'm trying out some organizers and batch stampers (free ones that is). I'm playing with Google's Picasas at the moment. It's easy to use, does batch but I'm a little miff'd it does't do or I just can't figure out how to change fonts and enter more than one line of text. As expected it does figure out if it's on a light or dark background and adjusts acordingly.

Bill,

Let us know on your final findings with Picasa. Do you have to upload them first or is it a local software :lol: My suggestion is not to make the line too long and if you can use a bolder font it might not show up as thin, but what do I know. :lol: Btw, Willy's pic looks trick and that should be entered in JOM when he is eligible to do so. :sos:

I just notice that my online album allows me to automatically do this on the upload, but I'm still up in the air as I have to many of these pictures linked all over the place as well as others linking to them. In any event a note from the person using them would be proper and I gather that this is why the topic got started.

Hey Sodman... I did see a couple of your pics at a porn site, a friend sent me a copy. Don't want you to have the impression though that I go and check these sites out. :lol:
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Posted 10 December 2009 - 08:27 AM

View PostJim B, on Dec 10 2009, 08:08 AM, said:

Hey Sodman... I did see a couple of your pics at a porn site


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Posted 10 December 2009 - 10:08 AM

View PostJim B, on Dec 10 2009, 08:08 AM, said:

Btw, Willy's pic looks trick and that should be entered in JOM when he is eligible to do so. :lol:

Jim,
That is what happens when you have the best photographer and the driver with the killer donuts all in the same place :lol: :lol:
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Posted 10 December 2009 - 07:48 PM

View PostJeepNWilly, on Dec 10 2009, 10:08 AM, said:

Jim,
That is what happens when you have the best photographer and the driver with the killer donuts all in the same place :devilgrin: :devilgrin:


Willy,

You're being way to charitable.. you should see the work from some of the Baja and Dakar photographers (amazing stuff)
BTW: May your steering pump rest in peace :devilgrin:


Jim,

As for Picasas, the pictiures can all stay on the local machine. Nothing needs to be on the web. Infact that is the straight out of the box behaviour.



It should be adding here...

From an image management position it is far better to link the picture than to copy and re-host it. If for any reason a picture can no longer be made available it's easier to remove or change it out at the source. With copies there is a need to hunt down urls, people and possibly hosting domains which is real time consuming and can be frustrating or even worse, damaging in urgent matters.

As for the source (photographer), there is a resposibility to let all users know with as much time as possible that a picture is to become unavailable and offer alternatives where they exist and be accomodating.
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