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#31 User is offline   MikeJoel 

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:16 AM

much better when you cleaned it :thumbsup:

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 09:16 AM

Eventually it'll get crummy again, but it makes install go easier when we're dealing with clean parts. :vacumm:
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 04:33 PM

Called my local NAPA store today to get that HD 70 amp

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(and other) relays today and they had no idea what I was talking about. I did my best to describe that photo that Rollbar :thumbsup: posted but they want a part no. Is anyone familiar with that relay? It appears to be 4 lug with a 1/2 inch primary lug the other three standard 1/4 inch.
Checked with my buddy that used to ride a Sporty but it was a kicker, so no luck there.
Any info would be greatly apprecited.
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 09:49 AM

Part Number: ECH MC23014
Product Line: Echlin Ignition Parts
IMPORTANT INFO: w/ 5 Terminals

Part Number: ECH MC23015
Product Line: Echlin Ignition Parts
IMPORTANT INFO: w/ 4 Terminals
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 02:04 PM

View PostJeepinIan, on 13 August 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

Part Number: ECH MC23014
Product Line: Echlin Ignition Parts
IMPORTANT INFO: w/ 5 Terminals

Part Number: ECH MC23015
Product Line: Echlin Ignition Parts
IMPORTANT INFO: w/ 4 Terminals

:thumbsup: Thanks so much Ian, I've been bouncing shop to shop here this morning and noone could help! Even going by application ~! :banghead1:
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 02:07 PM

Thanks for the update Ian-Turbo, I could fine the info-I guess I should have PMed you back.
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 02:41 PM

View PostRollbar, on 13 August 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

Thanks for the update Ian-Turbo, I could fine the info-I guess I should have PMed you back.


;) Don't sweat it Rollbar, I get caught up with other stuff too. I'm just grateful for your excellent post on this!
I stopped by the local shop that's bailed me out a few times and within 3 minutes he got one ordered that'll arrive in a couple hours. Hurrah for 'old school' folks that now how to look up stuff in books!
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 08:39 AM

Well got that relay in as promised and it looks like the 70/80 amp pictured but the shop favors Carquest and this was made in China. :no:
I've (as many others have had) issues with made in China auromotive parts before. On the other hand this is only a relay. I'm thinking either it will work or it won't, being electrical. I'm certain there's bound to be holes in this idiom but given this consumer desert I live and work in, it's the best there is available locally. I'm not going to start the well known rant about the internet shopping being the bane of local shops but in this area it's had it's full effect.
Going on the hunt for a pigtail for this relay today and if all fails I may go with a Hella unit I found yesterday on Amazon, much as I hate to do it. My link
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 10:09 AM

View PostTurboGus, on 14 August 2012 - 08:39 AM, said:

Well got that relay in as promised and it looks like the 70/80 amp pictured but the shop favors Carquest and this was made in China. :no:
I've (as many others have had) issues with made in China automotive parts before. On the other hand this is only a relay. I'm thinking either it will work or it won't, being electrical. I'm certain there's bound to be holes in this idiom but given this consumer desert I live and work in, it's the best there is available locally. I'm not going to start the well known rant about the internet shopping being the bane of local shops but in this area it's had it's full effect.
Going on the hunt for a pigtail for this relay today and if all fails I may go with a Hella unit I found yesterday on Amazon, much as I hate to do it. My link

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 11:32 AM

!FOUND!

Hella part nos.
70/80 amp relay: H41510141 ~or~ 003510517
Harness Connector: H84703001
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 01:53 PM

....and they're coming from as nearby as................Georgia! :no:
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 05:32 PM

Began my search for the high speed and low speed relays. First approaching the local NAPA I explained that I needed at least a 70/80 amp relay. Their response was a blank stare followed by thier response "we have relays". Okayyyyy how about 70/80 amp relays. They didn't know. So I went to the Ford dealer in town and gave them the rundown on the vehicle this fan came from; '98 Merc Mystique 2.5L V6 with A/C needed a 70/80 amp cooling fan relay. The same blank stare ensued. After about 10 minutes of tippy tapping on his computer he said he found one that might work but he couldn't find any amperage information, number of pins or their assignment, remarking that this '98 is obsolete !
Now, being a former Marine I now about obsolescence, for my first two years I was stationed at MCLB Barstow where, when an old jeep, truck or tank arrived at the rail dock, job #1 was to send a bunch of privates with rattle cans of olive drab to paint out the white star.
Disgusted I returned to the boneyard and pulled some wiring and found these two relays;
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Text: FORD G1UHD
93BG 14N089 CA
V23136-4-X1
12V 70A
..............PA

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Text:FORD C8F6A
93B6 8C616 AA
RELAY ASY.
ENG. COOL.
FAN CONTR.
12V
[PA6-6F30]

Can anyone tell me if these are the correct relays for the Contour/Mystique fan setup? and if so, where inline does the oversized green on go?

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:56 AM

Here's the diagram showing where I think they go. Any ideas? anyone? I'm getting right frustrated, the local FORD DEALERSHIP can't even tell me. :banghead1:

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 10:10 AM

Failure to learn about this 5 bladed green relay I may be going with store bought IF the vendor can tell me they're rated for 40 amps! Man, if I were as inept as some of the local vendors are I would've been sent to the infantry by the command, despite my contract for truck driver.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 06:00 PM

Went back to the boneyard looking for a bank of relay sockets (small footprint) and I found two more 70/80 amp relays for free with a more contemporary number;

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I scanned several vehicles for small footprint relay pods, but so far those that take Bosch style relays are 6x9" and larger.
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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:23 AM

Sorry for all my questions and posts folks. I've been called on this in other forums.
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Posted 29 August 2012 - 04:50 PM

I got the socket and the two 9.5mm~0.375" female spade connectors stuck in pretty well, since I lost my soldering gun in the move, I had to rely on my butane micro torch. The soldering was on the sloppy side which when pressed with needlenose pliers the connectors are holding fast.
But do you think within 50 miles or even on the net I couldn't find the connector in this side with the catch to hold fast in the connector?

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 10:45 PM

It's very rare to find it now-a-days :(
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Posted 07 September 2012 - 05:57 PM

:2thumup: FOUND (maybe) An Amazon reseller had a bag of 50 Hella (.375/9.5mm) 10 gauge connectors NOS so I snapped 'em up. I'm dubious if they're the real deal or not but if they are with all the leftovers I'll have I'm going to offer them free + shipping to anyone else that's in a similar jam. Kameraden! :grouphug:
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:49 AM

Yippeee! Got a box of those oversized terminals with the back catch in and the ARE the right ones/size!

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...and I have more faith in Czech manufacture than that of China. Also as I've promised on more than a couple forums if anyone else is building these relay sockets drop me a line and I'll mail you enough of these (2) to get your fan project going on this 70/80 amp relay!

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 09:21 PM

Are those for sale or you're just showing it to us??? Looks nice...
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Posted 15 September 2012 - 10:00 AM

The Hella (.375/9.5mm) 10 gauge connectors I'm giving away if one can renumerate postage (2) connecotrs each. As for the other photos I intended to display the part nos. available (at least in this consumer desert). I had one heckofa time finding 70/80 amp relays out here.
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